On a Facebook group No Rules Religious Debate a group member Mars Sterling Turner commented on a post with photo as above with his scientific wisdom.
I am surprised that I could not find such sharp pointed arguments from any Hindu people. In this post you can see comments by Indian or Hindus also with no basis of their experience or education for their view point. They are just regurgitating from scriptures or some well founded logics.
His comment is as below:-
every creation is a transformation!
the only thing that exists is radiation; matter (atoms and subatomic particles) are solitons or Kerr induced self-focusing refraction curvatures.
every creation is some radiation transforming into another form of radiation
the substance of radiation is energy; which is a quantitative [physical quantity] property [physical property].
nowhere and at no time has nothing existed; energy has always existed everywhere
every creation is a transformation of energy; energy is eternal, omnipresent, and all power full. All expressions of power are transformations of energy; ergo eternal and omnipresent energy is all-power-full.
eternal, omnipresent, and all power full are properties of YHWH, therefore YHWH exists.
every cause and every effect involves energy; energy is self-cybernetic (self-controls itself),
where both the cause and the effect are different parts of the same self (energy), this is self-determinism (self-causals itself)
self-control and self-causal make up what we know of consciousness
therefore energy = consciousness; this is dual aspect monism panpsychism
an eternal, omnipresent, all-power-full, self-cybernetic, self-controlling, self-causal, self-deterministic, consciousness, energy entity exists
(Jeremiah 23:24) ‘For a fact, I FILL the heavens and the earth,..’ declares YHWH.
(Acts 17:27,28) …He is NOT far from each one of us. ‘For in Him we live and move and have our being’-(Epimenides)…
energy is YHWH. QED
Q/A 1; why is there something rather than nothing?; because nothing cannot exist.
Q/A 2; what about the problem of evil?; the problem of evil is apparently resolved by knowing that (1) God allows evil to preserve human free will; and (2) God uses evil to build our character. Or (3) suffering exists for a reason that is beyond our comprehension;
Q/A 3; what about the paradox of omnipotence? Power is defined as the transformation of energy, not the destruction of energy. The inability to destroy itself does not contradict being all-power-full. Therefore energy cannot destroy itself. To create and to lift both involve the transformation of energy. A rock which has finite form cannot exist in an infinite substantial state. Therefore energy having infinite potential cannot create a rock that it cannot lift. Note; Resolving the omnipotence paradox demonstrates a clarified understanding of reality. This pragmatically proves that YHWH exists.
I have submitted my replies as below :-
I agree with you for every creation is just transformation of energy. I also agree that energy = consciousness. I appreciate your wisdom.
1) I quote ‘energy is YHWH. QED’. Spirituality is subjective science and one has to experience that energy within, this is the only way to ‘DO it’ and not just say QED.
(my views for above comment is that If life is treated as a problem of mathematics, then it’s solution QED comes on its own ie Wu-Wei-Wu by ‘doing something’ or say ‘by practicing meditation’ because we are included in its solution and it lies within us. The transforming moment of awakening or enlightenment happens when in intense state of no-mind the No-ego state also coincides with it on its own. In that moment the mystery of life get solved and only human being is able to solve it, so the one has proved himself as real human being QED. It is also called returning to the origin because the life is a circle and its beginning is its end. One has completed the circle ⭕️ QED.)
Only human being is gifted with this potential. In India we call such person as ‘Siddha’- manes who has proved decision of gifting him life as human being by infinite energy or YHWH as right.
I quote from his comments and my reply to each one based upon my experiences as below:-
‘Q/A 1; why is there something rather than nothing?; because nothing cannot exist.’
‘Q/A 2; what about the problem of evil?; the problem of evil is apparently resolved by knowing that (1) God allows evil to preserve human free will; and (2) God uses evil to build our character. Or (3) suffering exists for a reason that is beyond our comprehension;’
‘Q/A 3; what about the paradox of omnipotence? Power is defined as the transformation of energy, not the destruction of energy. The inability to destroy itself does not contradict being all-power-full. Therefore energy cannot destroy itself. To create and to lift both involve the transformation of energy. A rock which has finite form cannot exist in an infinite substantial state. Therefore energy having infinite potential cannot create a rock that it cannot lift.’
My reply : Perhaps, from my experience I can say that
My answer to Q1: Nothing cannot exists but Nothingness exists as positive energy because it keeps growing means constantly converting from formless to form and form to formless state or Indian mystics says that it keeps dancing.
My answer to Q2: Good and bad like duality does not exist, it is a system comprises of these two and energy keeps them in equilibrium so that the universe can exist. Duality is mind created phenomenon because it always divides everything into two. This is why objective science without the help of meditation(subjective science) is unable to reach to any conclusion because reality is one. My post on word press blog Philosia(dot)in or medium medium(dot)com(slash)@joshuto with title ‘Beginning of universe ….’ for more.
My answer to Q3: All forms are mere projection of the infinite energy, they exist till mind exists. Please see my posts titled ‘We are holographic projections’ and ‘Formless is form’ on my blog Philosia(dot)in also refer to book “amzn(dot)in(slash)7EU3vlx – Life and teachings of the masters of the east vol1&2, by Thomas Balding“ in which he has described his encounter with Eastern mystics who could pass through the wall or project themself at two places at the same time. Truth is paradoxical because it contains both good and bad and is beyond both of them to ever expanding.
Comment on my post on FB about this discussion by Yassine Rezkallah
I feel as though all religions are wrong in the idea that theirs is the only true religion, it’s like comparing americas history’s and and australias history’s and saying only one is right. All religious books hold a historical account of revelations the divine has brought to the people in that time, and place. In each era, and each place , each group of people had different requirements for spirituality in relation to what stage of growth and evolution a people were in, so the divine appeared to each group of people with a different face, in a different light, with different teachings, i beleive the divine is far to vast to be captured by only one group of people and for them to be called the only true religion, but rather the divine is multi faceted like the greatest diamond, and in studying every culture, every religion, one can gain a fuller picture of the divine, why must we choose one when we can have the whole picture, why limit your self to just one face of the divine, why must we fight over whose teachings, whose methods are right or wrong if they all lead to the divine.
Awareness Meditation is the way that worked for me and I tried it first during brushing my teeth in the morning after trying 8-10 meditations over period of 15 years! So there is no need to reinvent the circle for you. May be you too find it suitable otherwise with Dynamic meditation and/or Kundalini in the evening it is suitable for most of the people. There are 110 other meditation techniques discovered by Indian Mystic Gorakhnath about 500years before and further modified by Osho for contemporary people that one can experiment and the suitable one could be practiced in routine life.
My experiences may be of your help in taking only one step. Because everyone has to move forward alone, this is the nature of this journey.
In my life mindfulness or awareness meditation helped miraculously. Apart from that living a simple, authentic and totality in life is very helpful even when we are serving people around us with great love and care without discrimination.
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